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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 27, 2008 14:40:59 GMT -5
I'd say the league you join is...your own. Go independent this season. Save up your money. Find an arena. Join the IFL next season.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 27, 2008 15:19:54 GMT -5
Financially is South Texas (or just Texas) stable enough to join a league like the IFL? I heard whispers about no insurance and no intent to get insurance. If that is even close to true you may consider working on getting your house in order before trying to get onboard with a league.
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Post by lefthand on Mar 28, 2008 11:17:37 GMT -5
I know the team sent out a medical form for us to fill out. I think we are getting coverage. Our general manager said that the IIFA was supplying the insurance thru AFLAC. That was back in January when he came back from the league meeting.
We can go independent but the schedule will be a mess. We are hoping the join the APFL this year. Why do you say we are unable. It is to costly? Or does the APFL likes cancel or forfeit games?
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Post by blackhawkdown on Mar 28, 2008 12:44:28 GMT -5
I know the team sent out a medical form for us to fill out. I think we are getting coverage. Our general manager said that the IIFA was supplying the insurance thru AFLAC. That was back in January when he came back from the league meeting. We can go independent but the schedule will be a mess. We are hoping the join the APFL this year. Why do you say we are unable. It is to costly? Or does the APFL likes cancel or forfeit games? I would imagine its because this late with schedules set, now tickets being sold it would only screw up the logistics of our league and teams. I guess what I'm saying is our boats are full and trying to take on more survivors now would endanger all of our safety. Not saying won't or can't save more teams just saying maybe tread water and we"ll come back for you next year ...maybe..?
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Post by lefthand on Mar 28, 2008 12:50:50 GMT -5
We were told we will be taken another team place. The original schedule should not change and no forfeit or cancellation. Not if it is to much trouble in the small boat then maybe your right. We are just hopeful that we get the mash head again with Beaumont and Conroe. We played last year and was introduce to indoor professional football. We played under the San Antonio Steers team. We will be patience!
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 28, 2008 12:56:48 GMT -5
I know the team sent out a medical form for us to fill out. I think we are getting coverage. Our general manager said that the IIFA was supplying the insurance thru AFLAC. That was back in January when he came back from the league meeting. We can go independent but the schedule will be a mess. We are hoping the join the APFL this year. Why do you say we are unable. It is to costly? Or does the APFL likes cancel or forfeit games? I am saying that the APFL has a schedule out already. They are trying their best to right the wrongs of the past. We're a week away from the first game. Why would you want to (as a league) change the schedule now? If the APFL wants to have a successful year bailing out your team is not the way to go about it. Tickets are printed up already. Now if your team wants to be known as the Wichita Falls Diablos...then I could see where that would work. But if you are stuck on your team as your team...well then I can't see how it would work. I am a vocal critic of the APFL. The league knows this because I call them. And I do this to try to help make things better. If they make this move it is a black eye on the league from day one. There's no way to spin that story. "We were trying to help out a down on it's luck (made a bad business decision) team?" It's almost like it's expected of the APFL to accept this team. It shouldn't happen. If I buy a house and it is a crappy house should I expect my mortgage company to accept a letter that says, "we're sorry but we're not going to stay with this mortgage. We feel we made a bad decision buying this house. So we're going to tear this mortgage up and move to a different house." I know it's not quite the same...but you guys wanted to be a part of the IIFA. Fix the issues there and take care of your business. I understand your situation sucks...but I'm also sure if you would have called the APFL in December or sooner they may have had a spot for you. Heck maybe the APFL did call you and offer before. I don't know. Personally I feel bad for your team but I am starting to feel worse for the APFL. I can honestly tell you that approaching this on a message board is not the way they will go with it. And before I hear the, "those teams are scared of us" stuff (because I hear it on a yearly basis) realize why you're in the situation you're in.
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Post by blackhawkdown on Mar 28, 2008 13:34:08 GMT -5
We were told we will be taken another team place. The original schedule should not change and no forfeit or cancellation. Not if it is to much trouble in the small boat then maybe your right. We are just hopeful that we get the mash head again with Beaumont and Conroe. We played last year and was introduce to indoor professional football. We played under the San Antonio Steers team. We will be patience! It may be a small boat but OURS is still floating .Nothing personal ,I feel ya , but I would be terribly disappointed and incredulous if the "league" were to allow this to happen this year. Taking another teams place is one thing, adding one in addition to would be bush league at best and detrimental to the league.
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Post by lefthand on Mar 28, 2008 13:39:22 GMT -5
I agree with you and trust me if I was already in the APFL and a team wanted to join I would stand with you. We were working to stay in the IIFA until March 14th we got news that the team was sold behind the original owners. Now the new owner realize how the IIFA is running things and he rather move to a league that is stable. We as players have to move with the team. Like I said, we are just hopeful, not begging. I heard from the coaching staff that the IIFA has other teams folding or leaving. So there might not be a IIFA to work it out. I do appreciate your honesty in this discussion, it has been real.
Thanks
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Post by blackhawkdown on Mar 28, 2008 14:34:29 GMT -5
I agree with you and trust me if I was already in the APFL and a team wanted to join I would stand with you. We were working to stay in the IIFA until March 14th we got news that the team was sold behind the original owners. Now the new owner realize how the IIFA is running things and he rather move to a league that is stable. We as players have to move with the team. Like I said, we are just hopeful, not begging. I heard from the coaching staff that the IIFA has other teams folding or leaving. So there might not be a IIFA to work it out. I do appreciate your honesty in this discussion, it has been real. Thanks Having played myself I understand and appreciate your desire to play and passion for the game. I wish you the best ,one footballer to another ,keep us posted as to how it comes out for you lefthand.
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Post by gusher on Mar 28, 2008 14:56:49 GMT -5
If the Riders are coming in for the WF team I have no proplem with that. Now if the FT team is also in trouble the APFL south may need even more of the IIFA teams to fill in.
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Post by darkwaters on Mar 28, 2008 16:48:22 GMT -5
If the riders were going to play it was because the Diablos were trying to be of help, not the other way around Gusher. I think that was covered in another post a ways back.
Good luck !
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Post by tater on Mar 31, 2008 10:26:58 GMT -5
Here is a whole lot more than 2 cents worth, Lefthand.
If the IIFA isn't going to work out for San Antonio and your only option is the APFL, it sounds like you better get in touch with the APFL right away and hope that you can get something worked out.
I haven't heard of any communication between the San Antonio team and the APFL. With the first APFL game this week, someone from San Antonio better get on the phone.
As it is, I don't see any way or place for San Antonio to go without playing in the IIFA. It's just too late for this year.
However, I learned a long time ago to "never say never" as they say.
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Post by indoor on Mar 31, 2008 11:05:09 GMT -5
coaches will always tell players what they "need" to hear. if not, you have mutiny and antagonism. its obvious, not matter how much the players thinks, or doesnt think, of the morals, ethics, etc. of his coach, he will be left out of the true administrative loop. the south texas roughrides will most likely limp into the iifa season and have an average record. re-group and try again next year.
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Post by indoorfan on Mar 31, 2008 16:52:52 GMT -5
I think the plan is for the Rough Riders to be in the APFL in 2009.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 31, 2008 17:00:46 GMT -5
Will there be an APFL south in 2009?
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